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We have collected Joe Flanigan’s interviews in 2011 and we are providing here the texts and transcript excerpts for the video/audio ones, as well as links to the original sources.


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1: How do we know you?

I had a short stint working at Interview Magazine for the late Tibor Kalman. I had just graduated from college and my last job was working as a White House Advance Man. You can imagine the culture shock of entering ground zero of New York’s Downtown scene after working at the White House. Ironically, there was more dysfunction at the magazine than the halls of power, but one figure who always remained unruffled and gracious was Patrick McMullan. We quickly became friends and I was essentially ushered into the downtown scene. There is no place like New York City.

2: What is your latest project?

I just completed two projects. A sci-fi movie we shot in Dublin and a new pilot that recently aired on Fox. We are waiting to hear if it goes to series.

3: Where are you living?

Malibu California with my lovely wife of 14 years Katherine Kousi and my three rambunctious but charming boys: Aidan (10), Truman (8), and Fergus (4). Also, 4 dogs.

4: What don’t we know about you?

I have bees and a large organic vegetable garden.

5: What is your favorite travel destination?

Should be a plural.

Destinations: Paris, Kauai, Aspen.

6: What inspires you?

I majored in History, primarily Intellectual History. I have always been inspired by ideas and how they evolve, gestate, and manifest themselves in civilization. We are living in an incredibly interesting time and the velocity of change is so great ideas are having a hard time reaching the public in any profound way. America has ADD while China is thinking 30 years down the road.

7: If not yourself, who would you be?

Teddy Roosevelt.

8: What book is your bible?

Ralph Waldo Emerson’s essays on Self Reliance were probably the most influential in my life. God/Nature or Nature/God. It’s hard to separate the two, but I believe there is a supreme intelligence in the universe. Some organized religions really take issue with this because they believe we are more evolved than much of the natural world around us. While there is truth to some of that, I believe mankind’s separation from nature is at the heart of our problems.

9: What is your favorite word?


10: Who is your biggest hero?

My mother and my late father. They loved each other like teenagers to the end. And more importantly, they knew how to have fun.

11: How would you define success?

He who dies with the most friends wins.

12: What would the last question of this questionnaire be if you were the one asking?

Why is everyone so damned scared?

Our lives are longer and healthier than ever before. We are more knowledgeable than ever. Our capacity for self-education and self-correction is historically unparalleled. And yet, we are scared. Kids aren’t allowed to go ride bikes around the neighborhood anymore because parents think it’s too dangerous. America is consumed with anxiety. The boldness and courage required by our ancestors that built this nation is in short supply. I think it may have a profoundly disturbing impact on our future. I really want America to crawl out from under the table and get back in the game. Now where’s that beer?

Joe Flanigan is an American actor.  He is best known for his portrayal of the character Major/Lt. Colonel John Sheppard in the television show Stargate Atlantis.


Joe Flanigan @ IMDB

Questions by PMc Magazine

Edited by Tyler Malone

Photography by Patrick McMullan for Patrick McMullan.com

Design by Marie Havens


Joe Flanigan, Malibu, CA, March 1, 2011, Photography by Patrick McMullan for Patrick McMullan.com


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JF: I feel horrible that I’ve dropped out of the tweet universe; I have to re-enter it. Maybe I’ll do it right now, I’ll do it after the show.

[…] I have ADD, I think; I get really excited about things and then I just completely forget about them.I’ll be sending video-tweets, and it’s kind of cool. Actually I like that idea a little bit better. […]

Q: Lets’ talk about Ferocious Planet

JF: I’m a marine colonel who did something wrong, namely something very patriotic and I’m punished for it. I get stuck guarding a national science laboratory and one of their experiments go wrong. This drove us into a parallel dimension, where there’s a different planet that also looks like British Columbia or Ireland and has very large monsters. I love saying that. I love to say m-o-n-s-t-e-r-s. And I love killing monsters.


JF: I’ll be woefully undreamed, not unlike Stargate Atlantis and I’ll have to tap into my inner MacGyver (and I’m sure Rick will appreciate that) and survive. It’s a real stretch.


JF: “Sisters” was my first series, and you couldn’t get farther away than science fiction than “Sisters”. It was a popular show, with an slightly different audience. I was not quite as heroic, I was “a guy”. A lot of guys came through that show, by the way, George Clooney was on that show too, right before ER. A lot of guys went through “Sisters”. The sisters ate them up and spit them out.  There were really good actresses on that show.


Q: Is there going to be something like a Stargate Atlantis reunion soon?

JF: The rumors have been all over the place. Unfortunately, there’s not going to be any Stargate in the near future. That doesn’t mean it won’t be in “the” future. I don’t think anybody would be seeing anything related to Stargate for at least another year. The franchise has been effectively kind of shut down. SG1 and SGA were canceled and they spun off a series simultaneously, called Universe, that unfortunately was not embraced by the audience, and that kind of sank the ship for a while. So we’re gonna have to resurrect that ship somehow.


Q: What is it about the movie Spore?

JF: Right now we just have a script and we are supposed to go into production in spring on Spore. I love saying that one: S-p-o-r-e.

Q: You know it’s spring now, right?

JF: Oh, my god, hold on, you’re absolutely right. I have to tell you where I am right now: on the streets of Aspen Colorado, in snow, I’m freezing and nothing looks like spring to me. But you’re right, I’d better call about that one, maybe I’m late for work.


JF: I’ve just sent my first twitter in five-six months as we were talking, you’ve instigated it. It says “I’m back” and that may be not such a good thing that I’m back, but hey…

source (the actual interview runs from min. 5:30 of the recording)

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This is an interview from April 6, 2011 with Joe Flanigan from the Syfy movie Ferocious Planet. In “Ferocious Planet,” an experimental device designed to view alternate universes malfunctions on its first demonstration, transporting a group of observers into a nightmarish new dimension. The team must use ingenuity and courage to outwit the bloodthirsty creatures of this bizarre world, while trying to repair the damaged machine and return home.

What are these aliens like compared to the types you’ve gone up against on Stargate Atlantis?

Joe Flanigan:
They seem to be almost impossible to kill. I seemed to be very good at killing the other ones. When we shot this, we shot it Ireland, and we worked strictly on green screen, and we weren’t given much in the way of what it was going to look like. And that’s kind of interesting because on the show, we always knew what the Wraith were going to look like. And so, you had an idea of what you were looking at and what you were working with. And in this case, I have to say they’re much bigger than I anticipated them to be.

You’re so calm.

Joe Flanigan:
Well, my calm and easy demeanor may be a bit deceiving because I didn’t think they would be that big until I saw the cut.

From the trailer Ferocious Planet looks a bit like the series Primeval. Were there any human-like aliens that you had to deal with?

Joe Flanigan:
Not in the movie. Just off camera. A lot of those.

What was it like working with John Rhys-Davies?

Joe Flanigan:
Oh, he’s a wonderful guy. And, he’s just filled with tons of fantastic stories. He’s done so much. We took him out to dinner one night in Dublin and he kind of regaled us with like all sorts of interesting stories. You know, he’s just done theater everywhere, movies everywhere. And he was wonderful to work with. Consummate professional.

Are we ever going to get to see Stargate Extinction?

Joe Flanigan:
Apparently not. I believe that those things have been postponed indefinitely. I mean as you know, the franchise has been summarily closed. That doesn’t mean that’s the end of the franchise by any stretch of the imagination, especially if I have my druthers, I’ll find a way to bring it back. I think the fans deserve to see some closure or at least some type of continuation. I think that – and especially in regards to my show, it was just unceremoniously closed and we need to do something about it.

What can you tell our site viewers about the movie? What should they expect?

Joe Flanigan:
Well, the movie is kind of part homage to the genre and also part actually the genre, so it’s one of those – you could call it in some ways a guilty pleasure in some ways. There are elements that are similar to Stargate in terms of the character and in terms of being kind of off world. But beyond that, I want to say it’s dinosaur-centric, but I guess it is. It looks like that.

You did Stargate Atlantis for five years. What’s it like shooting a movie compared to shooting a TV show?

Joe Flanigan:
Well, it’s really not that much different except that it’s a lot easier than shooting a TV show. It really is. I mean, I wish I was just a movie star. My God, those guys have a great life. They shoot one or two pages a day, and then they go back to their trailer. With Atlantis, for example, we would shoot 10 to 12 pages a day, and you’re really on your feet all day. You know, 12 to 15 hours a day and it’s work. It’s definitely a grind, and with no seeming end to it. And with movies, it’s more laid back. You tend to have a little bit more time and a little bit more money.

In this case, I don’t think that was the case. We actually had a very, very small budget. But because we were shooting in Ireland, you can make that money go a little bit further. Also in Ireland, they have this really interesting thing where they only work ten hours a day. You actually can’t go past that. And that gave us enough time to go to the pubs, and we liked that.

What can your fans expect to see you in next?

Joe Flanigan:
I did a two hour back door pilot that aired on Fox, and they were supposed to extend our contracts and they’re not extending those contracts, which leads me to believe it probably will not become a series. And I just assumed that that was going to be the next series, and we just found out Friday that it probably will not be. So, I don’t have any definitive answer on that right now. And I actually kind of liked that. There’s a kind of like wonderful freedom about that. I’m excited about being able to play my options out right now.

Could you talk about how you got started in acting?

Joe Flanigan:
By accident. I was in New York City and I was working at Interview Magazine and I managed to get myself fired, don’t ask me how, and I was pretty much out of money. And I had a neighbor who happened to be an actor, and he was always enjoying himself not working nearly as hard as me, and apparently making much more money than I was. And I said, “What is it that you do?” He said, “I’m an actor.” I said, “Well, what does that mean?” I didn’t quite understand what that meant. Now granted he was a commercial actor, but anyway he put it in my head that maybe this is something I should try out, since I was “in between jobs”, and I did. I went to the Neighborhood Playhouse and I just thought to myself, “Well, if I’m going to try this, I might as well try it now,” and I just happened to get very lucky.

You were on Warehouse 13 not that long ago. Is there any other Syfy series that you’d like to guest star on?

Joe Flanigan:
Oh, sure. I actually don’t think in terms of guest starring. I’m not really in pursuit of guest starring. Sometimes, if it’s interesting I would consider it, but it’s primarily as a reoccurring or a regular. But as far as guest starring on different Syfy shows, it’s not necessarily a goal of mine. However, there are a number of shows that are out there now that look awfully interesting to me, like – I consider True Blood a sci-fi show. You know, I consider anything with visual effects to that way is essentially science fiction.

And so, there is a lot of really interesting ones. Syfy’s got a couple new interesting shows. I have a friend doing this one called Alphas, then there’s Being Human. I think they have a lot of really interesting ones. And, I’ve been talking to Mark Stern recently about some new shows that he’s got in the works. So I’m in contact with Syfy about trying to nail down the next series.

Can you tell me something that your fans would be surprised to know about you?

Joe Flanigan:
I raise my own honey bees. I have my own organic vegetable garden. I’m actually a little bit of a farmer. In fact, I’m sitting here in Colorado actually right now andy fingers are all wrapped up. I almost chopped my finger off in one of these classic Farmer Joe moments dealing with large equipment and nonsense. A man of the Earth.

How did you initially get involved with this project?

Joe Flanigan:
Well, Syfy does obviously a series of these movies, and they’ve asked me on a number of occasions if I wanted to do them. Most of the times I’ve said no because of mostly location. Sometimes they shoot in Bulgaria and some places like that, and I just don’t have any interest in going to Bulgaria in the middle of winter. I’m spoiled. So this one actually came up that was shooting in Dublin, and I thought, “Well now, that may be a game changer.” I could actually go to Dublin for awhile. That would fun. And I was proved right. Dublin was amazing.

What did you find to be the most challenging part of making the film?

Joe Flanigan:
Well, a lot of the visual effects were not entirely fleshed out and shown to us. So when you’re acting, you’re acting against what you think will be the special effects in post-production. And you can only guess. So when you go and gauge your reaction to something, you have something in your head, I had some drawings they gave me. But when I saw the movie, the monsters were way bigger than I thought they were.

Oh, my God. It’s very, very tricky and fraught with a lot of obstacles when you’re doing science fiction acting. And I’m a bit of a stickler on set about making sure I know exactly what the levels of urgency are so that I don’t get a lot of egg on my face after they do a lot of the post-production. And you say to yourself, “My God! Why is he not reacting to the 300 foot tall monster?” Because I thought it was 3 feet tall. So you can imagine it gets tricky.

Honestly, I think science fiction acting is an art form, and I think it’s so much harder than people have any idea, and I don’t think it gets the respect that it deserves. And if you talk to people like Robert Patrick and these guys, they’ll tell you how truly difficult it could be.

Would you ever be interested in writing again or directing for you know a movie, TV show, whatever?

Joe Flanigan:
Oh, yes. Absolutely. In fact, this previous show that I did, it was a two hour, back door pilot which airs as a movie, and then could conceivably get spun off into a series. In that deal, I had a directing deal.

And so had the series gone, I would’ve been able to direct, and I was definitely looking forward to that. And presumably, I would write too. Any series that I’m on I would love to be writing and directing. And I just think it’s a natural progression of where you spend that much time on set and that much time in front of a camera, I think it makes sense to kind of expand your horizons a little.

The problem is in our business right now, the business is going through a really serious compression, and it’s so serious that it’s actually kind of sad. People are really losing their homes and they’re losing they way they’ve made their living for the last 20 years. So, the verbosity involved with protecting jobs these days is something else. So you know when you want to direct on a TV show, there are a number of directors who really don’t want actors to become directors or writers. The pie has gotten too small, and so it’s tricky in that regard.

Did you ever think of writing your own show?

Joe Flanigan:
I have. I’m busy definitely doing things. I just don’t like to talk about them until I feel like they’re kind of in their final stage and they’re going to move forward. The one thing that annoys me the most in this business is that a lot of people talk about things that are going to happen that aren’t happening, or may not happen, and I just don’t want to be another one of those schmucks.

How did you originally get involved with Atlantis?

Joe Flanigan:
Well, I mean the President of MGM at the time was a guy named Hank Cohen, and he ran into my Manager at the Golden Globes, and my Manager was representing Renee Zellweger, and she had just won something and he came up to congratulate him. And then, he started talking to him that he had this great new series, but he couldn’t find his lead guy. And he said, “Well, I have a client who’s perfect for that. Why don’t you meet him tomorrow?” And we met and it just literally happened in like a painlessly little time. It was really like within 24 hours, you know there was deal struck and that was it. It was interesting. If all deals could only work that well.

Back to Ferocious Planet. What was your favorite part about working on it?

Joe Flanigan:
Being in Ireland is just so much fun. I feel right at home in Ireland. And I had this wonderful Irish crew and this wonderful Irish cast, and they were incredibly professional and efficient. And it’s just a lot of fun. If I could shoot more there, I would. And I’m really glad I chose that because I would certainly try to encourage people to shoot in Ireland more often. And then it was fun to just get back into some camouflage and run around and shoot things. Call me crazy. I know it sounds a little weird, but I felt right at home.

When you have to act as if you are traveling to a parallel universe, did they provide you with any technical advisors that prepare you for such an adventure?

Joe Flanigan:
It would probably make my head explode, so they did not. I actually was thinking to myself, one of my favorite episodes in Stargate Atlantis was the Vegas episode. And we just kind of tapped into that at the very end, like unfortunately too late. So, it is kind of ironic this movie is about parallel universes also.

Do you prefer fighting aliens or dinosaurs?

Joe Flanigan:
I’ve got to say I think aliens are a little sexier, you know. I could at least talk to some of the Wraith. There’s no common ground between me and dinosaurs. Couldn’t really start any negotiation there.

In terms of genre, would you consider this your favorite one to work in?

Joe Flanigan:
Well I got to say it was funny. I approached science fiction with a lot of trepidation. I wasn’t really that enthusiastic about the genre when I started. And then as time went on, I’ve been converted you know 180 degrees, and I absolutely would say it’s now my favorite genre. And it gives you so much freedom. And I mean at heart, I’m an action/adventure kind of guru. I like that. And that you can do that and mix in science and fantasy and all sorts of things is pretty cool. And so, I really do miss doing my show, and I really hope to do another one. I think TV needs some more action/adventure, science fiction stuff.

You mentioned True Blood before. If you could be on the show, would you rather be human or other creature?

Joe Flanigan:
No. I wouldn’t want be human. It’s a lot of fun being the bad guy with big teeth. Playing bad guys is an awful lot of fun. You do it on a limited basis, but it’s an awful lot of fun.

A big part of the movie is about people who want to stay and explore, and the rest who say, “Let’s get the heck out of here.” If you were in a similar circumstance, are you a run kind of guy or are you a let’s stay and check this out guy?

Joe Flanigan:
I think it depends on what you left behind. I mean, you got a wife and kids left behind; you might want to run and go back. I think if you don’t, then I think it could be a nice permanent vacation. In our case, it’s unclear in the movie, it was kind of funny because all I really have to go back to is a boat. You know in retrospect, that’s really not a hell of a lot of to go back to. Maybe I should’ve stayed. It might’ve been the lack of cold beer or something that you know, like really wanted to make run.

Are you very adventurous otherwise?

Joe Flanigan:
Unfortunately I am, and I sit here talking to you with a third degree AC separation, a semi-chopped off finger, and it’s all from just nonsensical stuff like mountain biking. And, I’m actually sitting at the base of Aspen Mountain as we speak trying to figure out if I’m going to go cross country skiing, snowboarding, or just down-hilling.

Oh, rough life.

Joe Flanigan:
I know. I do. I live for it. And that’s why I think I like action/adventures, because I just need to physicalize things, and it’s tough for me to be inside and doing kind of domestic-like acting.

Did you do any stunts in the movie?

Joe Flanigan:
Yes. Well, I mean there wasn’t really any incredible stunts. But yes, I did everything. As you’ll see, there’s nothing really stellar going on. I didn’t get shot out of a cannon, but yes I did all the stunts.

Did you do any big stunts on Atlantis on your own?

Joe Flanigan:
Yes. Well I actually did quite a few. There’s some pretty serious climbing. We were on pulleys a lot. I mean, I got yanked off of two-story you know decks and all sorts of stuff. That is the part I miss quite a bit. It’s so much fun. It’s interesting because our stunt guy on Atlantis always had in his mind that I was some karate expert of some sort and would have these enormously like elaborate you know choreographed fights going on. And, I would say, “You know, I’m not that guy. I’m Harrison Ford in Indiana Jones. I just pick my gun up and shoot the guy.” I mean the path of least resistance. And it would frustrate him. However, we were able to make it up with my character getting kind of beat to crap and getting thrown around. And I think it worked well for that character. And in this case, it’s not unsimilar. The movie that – the Ferocious Planet, the guy gets kind of whacked around a good bit.

Do you have any advice for people who want to act?

Joe Flanigan:
Don’t. How’s that? There’s not enough jobs. Don’t come into our world. No. What I would say is if you enjoy it then pursue it. Acting is really difficult because it requires a tremendous amount of people to make it work, and a tremendous amount of money. For example with Stargate, we had 300 or 400 people working on the show. And you’re dropping $60 to $70 million a year. And it’s not like painting where an artist can go into a studio and nothing’s going to stop him from painting. Nothing going to stop a musician from making music. Well, a lot of things can stop actors from acting.

There are so many elements of dependency. So there’s a level of frustration that can come with the territory. I would warn people of that, and know that it sometimes may just end up being a hobby. So, that would be my advice.


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Q: Tell us about the plot of Ferocious Planet. It sounds, on paper, a little bit like an episode from Stargate

JF: I didn’t say that, you said that. It basically involves an alien planet and large inhospitable monsters, so yes, you’re not that far off in that regard. People who’d watched Stargate Atlantis will see in this character a lot of similarities.

Q: And probably not coincidentally. These movies are there to connect you to things that are familiar to you.

JF: These Saturday night SyFy movies, I’ve been offered a number of them before and I’ve mostly turned them down because they’re shot in places like Bulgaria, in December. When I was offered this one they just made a notation on top, that said: Dublin, Ireland, and I said: well, now that’s kind of interesting. I was immediately much more open to it, because it was Ireland, and then coincidently the character was similar to the character I play [in Atlantis].


Q: What is col Synn like? What’s his story?

JF: He’s a disgraced marine […] An experiment that takes place goes awry and then we all get thrown into a parallel dimension on a planet with m-o-n-s-t-e-r-s.

Q: The SyFy Saturday night monsters movies are deliberately ridiculous in many ways. They’re fun to watch, what about the fun to make them?

JF: I had a blast, I really did, I had so much fun, and so much of it had to do with the fact that “I’m in Ireland, working with all Irish cast and crew”, and I loved that. And thankfully, they put up with me.

These shows are kind of a guilty pleasure, they’re part homage to the genre and then they’re part “the genre”, you know, unironically the genre, as well. So it’s a fine balance to strike, between earnest genre and something a little self-deprecating. As you know, Stargate Atlantis is very self-deprecating and I think this was one of the really great qualities of the show. These things have their audiences and they are aimed at a very specific group of people and I hope that those people will like this.

Q: I guess you didn’t know what kind of monster were chasing you on the ferocious planet until long after you’ve done shooting. How do you look horrified not knowing what’s getting at you?

JF: I’m so glad you’ve asked that, because that’s something I try to explain to people. It’s one of the biggest challenges, I’ve seen some of the greatest actors getting assassinated on a scifi set. They don’t understand how do you have to incorporate the visual effects and how you can really get a lot of egg on your face in post production if you’re not very communicative with visual effects. You have to know exactly how big is that monster, what kind of noise does that monster make. If I’m reacting to this thing, how scared do I need to be.

In our case, they were not doing the post production, the same group that filmed, so what I had was very little. I’m hoping that my reactions are hopefully appropriate to the threat. That is one of the greatest challenges of scifi, not to mention a lot of times the dialogue itself could really kill a good actor.

Science fiction acting does not get the respect that it deserves. If you talk to a great actor like Robert Patrick he would tell you how truly difficult it is, and when it’s done well, you just don’t notice it. And that’s an accomplishment!


JF: John Rhys Davies is a child at heart, he’s a great guy and he’s incredibly well educated and knowledgeable about all sorts of stuff, filled with fascinating stories about his life and theatre. That was a highlight.

You said that: “do you enjoy shooting these things”. What is funny, the evolution that I have experienced as an actor… When my initial career was: “What is this project doing, where is it going to take me, will it accomplish the goals I’ve set up?” Now I don’t even think that way, I think on a totally different level: “Do I enjoy the role, and am I enjoying the people I’m working with?” And that’s really it, and that’s the end of the story, because all the other elements are out of my control. Consequently, I do enjoy myself quite a bit more. We just don’t have control about how these things turn out, where they end up, so you really do need to enjoy yourself. Working with guys like that, and especially the Irish cast and crew, I would go back gladly.


JF: We, as a cast [of Stargate Atlantis] were all very close and really miss each other and miss working with each other. We also felt like we have worked very hard and have done a very good job not only taping the Stargate SG1 area, but expanding it and kind of trickling it into the mainstream; we have won the People’s Choice award, and those are mainstream type of awards for a science fiction show.


Q: What do you have lined up?

JF: I just did a two-hours backdoor pilot that Walmart produced, we aired it on Fox, there’re hopes that it would become a new TV series, but it’s a complicated, very different model. These guys would potentially buy out the air time for the whole season, so they would only air the show and their commercials. It’s a very large business transaction that involves hundreds of million of dollars, that’s a little above my pay grade. There are intense negotiations on that, and it may or may not happen. But regardless, I’ll move forward and I’m in contact with Mark Stern at SyFy about trying to get a new series off the ground and I’d like to see that happen.

Q: Website, twitter, Facebook where people can find you online?

JF: I’m just so hopeless about that… I will start twittering again!

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Joe Flanigan is starring as a disgraced Marine colonel, who winds up guarding a science lab in the SyFy thriller,Ferocious Planet. Naturally, an experiment goes horribly wrong and tosses the lab into a parallel dimension.

“Of course there are monsters,”Flanigan tells us, “that’s the operative word…there are monsters.”

Fighting make-believe monsters can truly be a challenge,Flanigan explains with a laugh.

“You’re only told or occasionally given a drawing of what it will be like so you’re hoping that your acting is somehow calibrated to what the visual effects are going to be,” he begins. “And sometimes you don’t get it right. That’s why in science fiction you see this kind of discrepancy between what happens and the reaction of actors.”

His trick to making it appear realistic is simple.

“Yeah, I learned that as long as you scream, ‘I’m going to die! I’m going to die!’ it works in every show,” Flanigan deadpans.

Actually, Flanigan is an adventurer who mountain bikes, mountain climbs, surfs and more. In fact, the actor has been nursing an injury from one of his many outings.

“Right now, I’m currently a beat up adventurer,” he says. “I separated my shoulder in a mountain biking accident. I was coming down a single track trail at a furious speed – I just got brand new handle bars that were extra long – they snagged a branch and they just kind of threw me over and I landed on my back. I actually feel pretty damn lucky that it’s just an AC separation and not something more serious.”

Right, well apparently you can’t keep a good adventurer down. Flanigan is in Aspen, still thrill-seeking despite his injuries.

“I’m still skiing and snowboarding,” he confesses. “It’s about constant motion. I think I’m afraid of not being in a state of constant motion. My shoulder was immobilized for two weeks and I go back for surgery in another two weeks, so I thought I’d get the maximum adventure in before I got immobilized again – and I will be immobilized for quite a while.”

Crazy? No ways, Flanigan tells HollywoodOutbreak.com.

“I thought to myself, ‘I can’t hurt my shoulder any worse than it is – all the ligaments are separated – so what the hell…I’ll just go snowboarding and skiing. It hurts if you fall and I have yet to fall. So, when I do fall I’ll call you screaming…I could be screaming I’m going to die! I’m going to die!”


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JF: It’s nice to come to London at this time in the year and have this ridiculously nice weather.


Q: We put it on just for you, we thought you deserved it.

JF: I had a feeling. It’s in my contract, actually.


Q: Have you done lots of fan events like this before?

JF: I’ve done not too many events quite like this, but I’ve been to a number of signings, I’ve been to a few. They take you to some very interesting places around the world, and that’s essentially one of the key reasons I do it. You go to Sweden, you go to Australia, you go to New Zealand… It’s fun in that regard.


Q: Do you have any particularly fan experiences?

JF: I do, actually. The best collective fan experience is that I have a friend who’s dying of the Lou Gehrig’s disease and I really needed the help for her and we were going to raise funds for her. I was able to get an incredible amount of support from the fans that they sent her directly, helping her get through what’s going to be the last chapter of her life, but they’re making it a lot more comfortable. I’m tremendously grateful to have that fan base to appeal to, and they delivered a lot of help.


Q: SGA and its large and eclectic fan base: What do you think it is about this universe that people love so much?

JF: I think it helps that SG1 was on the air for 7 or 8 years before we came along, I think that makes a huge difference, you can really underestimate that. We really walked into a preexisting fan base. For that we’re super fortunate, we didn’t really have to build step by step the fan base as other new shows would have to build. We inherited it and we were able to expand it in different directions. We were really lucky. I think a lot of it has to do with the mythology of Stargate and the chemistry of the actors, it was a big part of it.


Q: Were you a fan of the Stargate universe before, were you familiar with it?

JF: It’s frightening: I had never seen Stargate before! At all. I had to have a mea culpa at one point: “I have no idea about Stargate”. At the end of the day I think that was actually a good thing, because I remember when I was shooting the first episode of Atlantis a lot of people were saying: You’re no Richard Dean Anderson, and you’re never going to be a Richard Dean Anderson. I didn’t quite know what Richard Dean Anderson’s role was. There was no chance of me imitating that, having never seen it. As a result, we were able to put together a show that was a spin off, but was entirely authentic in its own right. So my ignorance worked. But I’m a big science fiction fan, and since then I’ve become a much bigger science fiction fan, I really prefer doing science fiction over a lot of standard scripted dramas that television have today.


Q: Why do you think science fiction offers you more as a performer?

JF: As an actor, I really enjoy action. Action-adventure to me is a lot of fun and our show has quite a bit of action-adventure. Science fiction has this realm of possibilities and literally it stimulates your mind a lot more than other shows. At least that’s my personal opinion; some people don’t like science fiction. Science fiction television has come so far because of the effects that we can do today, or movie quality; there are TV shows where we get movie quality. If you look at our first episodes of Stargate versus the end, they are dramatic quantum leap in terms of production value, and so you’re able to do some really cool science fiction television these days. It’s not corny, it’s pretty cool.

In that regard I like it. And it appeals to a huge age range, it’s not just for kids or just for older people or just for middle age people. I’ve never seen fan base like the one we’ve been lucky enough to have: you’d have a six year old kid come up with his 86 years old grandfather and they are all fans. That’s hard to achieve. I’m kind of proud of that.


 JF: If I could play another character other than my own it would probably be McKay, because he’s so hilarious. I just don’t think I could ever be as annoying as he is. I would try, but nobody can be as annoying as David Hewlett himself, and for that I have great respect for him. If he was here, I would smack him, we love to give each other a hard time.


Q: Is David like we see him on screen?

JF: David is surprisingly funnier in person than he is on screen, which is saying a lot, and he can be viciously funny. He would definitely give you a workout, your stomach would hurt sometimes. That is priceless, when you’re working for 5 years, I don’t know where that breaks down to, but somewhere between probably 11,000 or 12,000 hours on set, to shoot five years. You get to know people pretty well, and the fact that we all like each other and get along is great. The fact that you get to have somebody like him, making us laugh… it gives a huge mileage, and you can overcome some pretty long hours and some difficult times. We just had a great time, we’d all like to be back together doing something. And we probably will! We don’t know when.


Q: Is this a suggestion that you’re going to do Stargate Atlantis again, or maybe something else, with the same people?

JF: Both. I think we could probably do a show together, that has nothing to do with Atlantis, if we chose. But the truth is the greater potential for us would be to pick up at some point where we left off with the existing characters, in a form of a movie or a mini series or something. I think most fans feel pretty upset that the stories in Atlantis were never able to be resolved in a respectful way and it was a very rushed end to the entire series. There were claims that we were going to do a movie, which we never did, so there are a lot of loose ends that have never been explained.


Q: Do you have a message for Stargate fans watching this?

JF: Be hopeful, I think you’ll see some resemblance to Stargate in the near future. I really do, I believe that.


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BJ: Joe Flanigan! How’s it going?

JF: Good! Good good good good. How are you guys?


BJ: We’re good, thanks. I was just wondering whether you’d mind sharing a few words about Stargate?

JF: Yeah of course, go ahead.


BJ: Ok, well, obviously a lot of people were incredibly disappointed when Atlantis was cancelled after the Stargate franchise had been of the longest running SciFi shows on the air. Did you feel it ended at the right time?

JF: Oh no, the show definitely ended too early. Without a doubt. It could have gone for another five years. It was a strange set of circumstances, and it has to do with the decline of the DVD market, which is partly responsible. The producers were getting anxious about all sorts of different issues. In any normal set of circumstances, we would have kept going, but the circumstances were not normal, so we were cancelled essentially to be replaced by what they thought of as a newer, fresher show that they could make more money off of, which is of course Stargate Universe. But unfortunately, their plans went quite horribly awry, and they actually ended up losing quite a bit of money. And our show, really, you know, it got cut off too early.


BJ: Yeah, especially as you said in your talk about Vegas; it was really taking a new direction, and it could have continued along that route, but then it got cancelled.

JF: It was the penultimate episode, and we shot that knowing the show was going to be cancelled. It was always kind of a little bit of a tragedy, I was always like “aaah, that’s a shame, this is such a great episode, too bad we didn’t do this three or four years ago.” So, that’s the way it goes, in TV land.


BJ: And sadly it was replaced with Stargate Universe. It’s a shame that Universe didn’t quite match up to the calibre of shows like SG1 or Atlantis

JF: Well, it wasn’t really trying to be SG1 or Atlantis, it was really trying to be Battlestar.


BJ: Yeah, they attempted to blend the two, which could have worked, but I didn’t feel it was that successful.

JF: It could possibly have worked, but it would have to be under different helmsman-ship. The strength of Stargate was the sort of self-deprecating, wink of the eye, adventurous quality that we had. Not in anyway great pretence of sending messages and having intense drama, that was not really… I think the strength of Stargate. You know, they took what was successful, and they changed it, like when they made a new formula for Coke. They all ran back to the original formula, they realised it was wrong, so maybe they’ll do that. Who knows, we’ll see what happens.


BJ: Fingers crossed! There was word of an Atlantis movie, but nothing’s been said about that since about 2009?

JF: Yeah, the studio, MGM, has been suffering, it went bankrupt, I mean there were so many problems. So, we are largely a victim of their problems, and their problems are significant. If they had been Warner Brothers or Sony it would have been entirely possible we would have kept going. MGM was just a mess, and they’re reorganising and… But I’m sure they’ll become successful again in the near future, but right now it’s just a matter of cleaning up the mess. They lost a lot of money.


BJ: If you could go on to do an Atlantis movie, would you?

JF: Oh yeah, absolutely! Provided we could get all of our group back together.


BJ: Yeah, if you could get the entire cast back…

JF: If they couldn’t get everybody back together, it’s questionable, but yeah, no, absolutely. That’d also be weird if there were new people doing it, it wouldn’t be the same. Although, you’d be surprised what Hollywood will do to save a bit of money! “We’ll take Laurel out, and Hardy out, and it’ll be called Laurel and Hardy with different people!” You know, they’ll do that.


BJ: “Sod David Hewlett, we don’t need him! Nor that Flanigan fellow!” Nah, wouldn’t work!

JF: Maybe they’ll do an SG1 movie, or a Universe… I don’t think they’ll do a Universe movie. It wouldn’t have the audience for it.


BJ: It really didn’t take off and keep the spirit of Stargate alive as much as I’d hoped.

JF: It didn’t. I also think that they really upset the fan-base. You’ve got a real loyal fan-base that’s been nothing but supportive, generous and instead they go “oh, we don’t need that fan-base any more, we’re looking for a younger, hipper, cooler audience. If you don’t like it don’t watch it. We’re going in a new direction and don’t need our pre-existing fans.” Which is a really, really reckless approach, and it had very disastrous consequences as a result. The fans have not really forgiven that.


BJ: At the end of the day, a franchise is supported mostly by its fan-base. The cast can be fantastic, have some great scripts and all the money in the world, but it’ll be the fan-base that makes or breaks it.

JF: Absolutely. Assuming the fan-base… Well yes and no. Assuming the fan-base watches the show when they are needed to watch the show and buy the DVDs. If the fan-base is massive but they download everything, that show will disappear also. You need money to make a show, if your revenue streams are drying up and people are taking things for free, there’s no way to make quality programming. It’s one of those things.


BJ: Yeah… And are you currently working on any new projects?

JF: Oh yeah. Look at that. [He lifts his right arm, pointing to a swollen elbow.] I’ve just finished a film with Jean-Claude Van Damme (Six Bullets), and I play an ex-Mixed Martial Artist world champion, and I had a tattoo that ran from here [points to shoulder] all the way down to here [points to wrist], a scar here and another scar here [points to cheek and eye brow]. When I came back from work and into the hotel, people would actually get out of the elevator. They were scared of me! And I was like “hey, this is kinda fun… Oh, your restaurant is crowded, there’re no tables available? Watch.” So it was interesting. We did a lot of stunts, and it still kind of hurts, but it was a lot of fun.

In case you were wondering why my elbow looked like it had a giant tumour; I hit it. Actually, somebody else hit it, it’s somebody else’s fault! With a machine gun. It was shot in Romania, and the rules of stunts in Romania are a lot looser… “Alright, we blow things up.” Yeah, great, what’re you using? “We use dynamite, that’s how you blow things up.” They do actually use dynamite – they’re a lot looser with the rules, so you gotta be careful.


JH: We’ve got to wrap things up now.

BJ: Oh, blimey…

JF: Oh, right, I just gotta sign this, sorry.


BJ: Thank you for your time, it was a pleasure meeting you.

JF: Yeah, you too. Take care.


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Q: What has been the impact of the role of John Sheppard on your own personality? Did it bring something new to you or were you always the perfect Colonel?
JF: No, it’s a different character, but there is obviously a lot of cross-over. I’m a bit of a soloist in life and I think Sheppard starts in the show as a soloist. Then I think he becomes a team player, toward the end.

Ironically, it’s a similar arch in my personal life with the show. I started looking out for myself on the show and then I became good friends with everybody. I feel close to them and I feel like we’re just one unit. That’s true in life in general, my whole life has gone from very singular to being very plural.


Q: What about the SGA movie?
JF: To be honest with you, there was never a plan for a movie. It was a rumour that the producers were perfectly happy to let out there, and I was always deeply uncomfortable with that. There were never any commitments for it, and I know because nobody ever contacted me. I did however say, well, it’s possible, but they would’ve been doing it without me, because nobody has talked to me. They had cancelled Stargate SG1, they’d cancelled Atlantis, and they were launching a new show called Universe; it was important to let the fans feel that there something else left from the other shows. I think it was not smart and it was disingenuous. Everybody who would have asked me, I said the movie is a no.

But that doesn’t mean that I don’t think it will happen in the future. I think it will actually happen sometime. It could just be a very long time, could be in a year or two, I don’t know. I think the franchise has that dormant quality that it could sprout out at any time, not unlike Startrek.


Q: Do you like to see yourself on the screen?
JF: I hate it! I don’t watch it! I don’t watch anything I did. I watch the dailies and I try to learn from the dailies simple craft issues, like: am I moving too much, am I speaking clearly, am I at the right angle for the camera or am I turning too much; little craft issues I look at. Could I have done it better, am I breaking apart the scene well enough, how many layers did I put into it…

So I’m very critical, I think, in a constructive way. I do it in a constructive way and I actually don’t have any ego when I watch this stuff. But when it goes to film and they cut it out and edit it and they send it out there, I don’t like to watch it. I’m so far past it, emotionally, that when I sit down to watch it I find it to be uncomfortable.


Q: Would you like your children to become actors?
JF: I really don’t want them to be actors. It’s a very difficult life. Statistically it is a miserable life. I think there are 120,000 members of the Screen Actors Guild; I believe that less than ten thousand make over 5,000 $ a year. If you took out the top 20 movie stars, it’s probably more like only two thousand people make over 10,000 $ a year. So, really nobody works as actors, statistically speaking. It’s a very brutal life, very difficult, you have to deal with a lot of rejection.

If they really really wanted to do it, I’d just say: hey, go make a lot of money and bring it to me! Bring your daddy the money!


Q: What was your most awkward moment on set?
JF: Besides now? I’m just joking! We did something that was so out of the blue… David would tell you this, because he remembers it distinctly. It’s just me and David and we were doing a scene. It was on film, the tape was running, he said something and I looked at him and I go: “I’m so ashamed!”. That wasn’t the line at all! I don’t know where it came from.

It was a conversation that David and I had had from earlier, joking about doing science fiction and doing some other things and being very self-effacing, and somehow it just popped up. I was like [whispering]: “that’s really too bad, because that’s on the film”. It was funny. David seized at it, of course, making it double uncomfortably for me.

editor’s note: from several other recounts, it seems that shortly after they started shooting SGA, Joe invited his fellow cast members to watch together the “Galaxy Quest” movie and to compare notes with the characters. The “I’m so ashamed” moment appears to be connected to that.


Q: New projects?
JF: Tomorrow I leave to go shoot the thing called Heavy Metal, Metal Hurlant. It’s based on the Heavy Metal comic books and the movie. I’ve just finished doing an action film with Jean Claude van Damme in Romania and I’ll be finishing doing this French episode.

There’re always things percolating, possibly happening, but I don’t like to talk about anything unless it’s a done deal. So there will probably be something else before Christmas but there’s no way to tell at this point. Unfortunately in this business things change fast and you can think you’re doing something, and like a week before you find out the whole project is cancelled.


Q: Have you ever been here before?
JF: Marseille? I came here once, when I was like 15 years old and I remember walking the streets and that’s about it. I’ve been all over France but Marseilles is one of the places I really don’t know that well but it’s a great city. I mean I really like it. I, personally as an American, I like cities that have a authentic quality to them, and this is, you know, it’s a port city, and it’s also an industrial town, but that’s fine. I wouldn’t like a town that was trying to hide that.

I like towns like Detroit and Chicago because they’re real. They’re real cities, they’re not cities trying to pretend that they’re something else. Vancouver, for example, is a port city but they’re trying to pretend that they are Paris or Hong Kong or New York City, and they’re not. It’s not the same thing.


Marseille, 31 Oct 2011

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Almost transcripts of Joe Flanigan’s Saturday and Sunday talks at Collectormania, London  (definitely not verbatim, but pretty close to what had been said).


Saturday’s talks:

Q: How was it to work with David Hewlett?

I love David, I see him fairly often. Although it’s hard to believe, David is even funnier in real life. He does this insidious thing when he starts cracking jokes and doesn’t give you any pause between one and another, so that pretty soon you’re having hard time breathing, and he just nails it all the time.

Q: Thoughtcrimes?

I would have loved to go on with that show and have a series out of it, but NBC made Medium instead, which is basically the same idea, only much more serious. Medium is good, don’t get me wrong, but I don’t think it’s as entertaining as our show would have been, at least this is what I keep saying to myself.

Q: What would have happened in the next season Atlantis?

I would have ended up on a planet with a bunch of girls, Cpt Kirk’s style. We should have explored the new story openings from Vegas, and get back and forth to these parallel dimensions, or from Earth to space and back.  From time to time, a series needs a new imprint, to make the audience pay attention to a show that they are already used to. The TV experience is different from movies; when you go to the movies, you buy the ticket, it’s dark, you’re captive, so you watch the movie. While when watching TV, you can also do other things, so it has to catch your eye. If your audience becomes too used to ‘the look’, every now and then you need to create a new visual imprint that would make them stop and pay attention to the show. I would have liked these new storylines. And I was going to get a boob job, and I just know it would have brought some new viewers!

Q: Fringe?

It was fun shooting Fringe. They asked me to work for a few days, but then I’m getting dead. I didn’t know much about the show, as I hadn’t watched it before. I ended up shooting for 8-9 days. ‘So you want me to play the dead guy when he’s dead?!?’ Generally you have a double, I mean you’re dead, for god sakes. But I don’t know, I guess I’m half dead or something, and they really needed to focus on me dead. So I spent about 5-6 days on that, just being dead, and I’m not really good at that. In that regard it was challenging. It was great working with all those guys. I knew Josh Jackson, from Dawson Creek, and I didn’t even meet him. I think Fringe is more popular here than in US.

(Showing us the dodgy elbow) Look at that: I just finished Six Bullets a film with Jean Claude Van Damme, where I play a mixed martial arts world champion and I have a big tattoo on the arm and shoulder, a scar on the forehead and a little scar on the cheekbone. And when I got back from work into my hotel people would actually get out of the elevator, everybody was scared of me. I thought hey, that could be fun: are you having troubles getting a table in a crowded restaurant? Watch this!!

We did a lot of stunts and I’m still paying the price. My elbow looks like it has a giant tumor in it.  I got hit, it’s actually somebody else’s fault. I got hit with a machine gun. The movie was shot in Romania and the stunt rules are a lot looser: (in a fake Romanian accent) ‘we use dynamite to make things blow up.’ And then they really do it.

Q. The weirdest thing you were asked for a photo-op?

Just recently, David and I were asked to do a ‘really kinky thing’ by a Japanese fan who didn’t quite speak English (gibberish imitating Japanese) and it was very weird… She positioned us like… ‘no, no, we’re not doing this, sorry!’… Maybe for the right price? No. That was weird. People sometimes look at you as they wouldn’t realize you’re just a person, but as you were indeed the character and expect you to behave as the character at the push of a button, and this could be challenging sometimes. Luckily for me, my character wasn’t that far away from home.

After answering, he challenged the fan who had asked the question: ‘are you going to ask me to do something really weird tomorrow at the photo-op? You think about it, you still got 24 hours.’

Q. SG Universe?

I tried to watch it, didn’t like it. I know I’m not supposed to say that, but you know me, I’ve got a big mouth. Battlestar and Stargate are different, and the qualities that made Stargate what it is are self deprecation, humour, a little repartee with the characters and I didn’t see that. I saw a lot of screaming. Apparently good drama is all about screaming. It didn’t worked and it wasn’t the actors’ fault. Actors were really talented and were deeply upset with me and David for not supporting the show. But it wasn’t personal, I’m always supporting actors as I know what they go through. I never wanted that show to fail. David told them ‘you have to understand we were essentially replaced by you guys, otherwise we would still be on the air…‘ It speaks for itself the fact that Universe imploded and buried the franchise as well. It was taken out of the air for the first time in 13 years.

Q. What joke or one liner was your favorite?

I don’t know… My reality is off camera and funniest things usually happen off camera. David had probably the best one liners, don’t you think? Maybe we should ask the fans about mines.

Then the fan offered: in Hide&Seek, “I shot him!”

‘I shot him!’? oh, yeah! That was actually my line, I remember saying that. Sometimes these lines are funny, and they really work, but you had to fight for them. One of my favorite line is from this movie I can’t even say the name, it’s called ‘Ferocious Planet(blah!). It was called ‘The Other Side’, it’s a science fiction movie that I did, it was shot in Ireland and there was this US senator who gets killed by the monster. I just said off camera: ‘I guess he won’t be running for reelection.‘ That was funny! When we gave that to the network, they didn’t know what to do with this line. And then they changed the name to ‘Ferocious Planet’, I think that says it all… If you’re going to be in genre shows, you either have to go for self-deprecation, or the show needs to be really really good, meaning high production levels.

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Q. How many hours for the tattoo make-up?

The first time it took a couple of hours and then it was just a maintenance issue. It was a decal thing, not henna, which would have been easier, but apparently henna is illegal in Romania, don’t ask me why. You can easily get uranium there, but not henna.

Q. What character you’ve never played would you take?

There’s so many! Any of the Indiana Jones and obviously Han Solo. Basically I want to be Harrison Ford! I liked that series, Deadwood. When the script came out I was working, otherwise I would had loved to read for it, but I couldn’t. The way the character was written in the pilot would had become a great character. Ian McShane devoured almost the whole show because he was so good, he’s amazing on that show. I would have liked to play that role; there was nobody there to go toe to toe with him and ‘push him back’. Or any of Paul Newman’s roles, I would do any of those.

What makes me angry is when I watch a movie and I see guys being given the chance to really hit it and they don’t. There are a lot of male leading men who don’t take advantage of the materials that are given to them. It’s not always their fault, it could be the directing, the editing, the studio… but it’s unnerving to watch an opportunity given to somebody and him not reaching out. It’s like being on the bench at the World series and watching somebody not playing second base as good as you could play second base.

Q. What about working again with David Hewlett?

I’m thinking about asking him to help me split some firewood, that would be working together and he hasn’t done that yet. We will definitely do something, and we keep talking about it. We have a number of ideas and I told him that after I’m back from Romania we need to seriously sit down and hammer something very specific that we’ve talked about, and stop waiting for people who say they’d be doing Stargate movies and things like that.

Q. Will you be in the last Creation Vancouver convention, next April?

Is it the last one? I don’t know, probably. I think they’ve invited me, they usually do. April is so far away, global warming… Unless I’m working. I honestly prefer doing movies rather than doing conventions. This is what I want to do for fans, to give them my work, as opposed to coming here and making an ass of myself and forcing you guys to laugh at my jokes.

Q. Do you think other actors feel the same about you not playing as good as they would?

(laughs) I hope not, but I’m sure it happens. Actually, it’s not always about doing it better, but doing ‘your way’. You can’t really say that one actor is ‘better’ than the other, although we do say it, but it’s not like comparing baseball players, with statistics and everything. For instance Christopher Walken in that Bond film that was preposterous, but Walken was so good, he was doing what Walken does and nobody does it like him. I want to see a certain amount of authenticity. When I started Stargate, everybody was like ‘you’re no Richard Dean, he’s like God, he’s MacGyver’ and I didn’t even see SG1 so I didn’t even try to be like him. After a couple of episodes nobody was asking me that anymore. I’m fortunate because I was able to do one hundred episodes, so that’s my role, it’s not somebody else’s role. I’m lucky in that regard. I’m sure there’s somebody there saying they could have been better, I know David always thought he could do it better.

(while waiting for the microphone to get to a fan placed in the first row, close to the stage): Go on with the question and I can repeat it. You want to see me naked? I’m sorry.

Q. Have you enjoyed ‘Good day for it’?

Good Day For It is a modern day western I did. They were looking for somebody for the lead role and I wanted to do it. But this guy was supposed to be beaten up and torn apart and rightly I think they got Robert Patrick for the part. The truth is he’s perfect for the role. I had a really good time. At this point in my life I just do things, and I enjoy the process and I hope for a good result. Ten years ago it was the opposite, I was obsessed with the result. But I don’t have control over the result.

Q. Fringe recorded some really good numbers

Really? I like that! It wasn’t just the premiere numbers? I’m the greatest person in the world!! We’ll try to let know the networks executives that I have some value on a show, even dead… I did the same for Warehouse 13, and they were counting on the Stargate fanbase, and after I shot it I got nervous, thinking if I didn’t deliver the numbers I’m just another schmuck. Thankfully, the fans showed up and it was the highest rated event in the network history, and I felt relieved.

Q. What’s next?

I just finished the movie with Jean Claude Van Damme. I’m going to this convention in Marseille and then straight to Brussels to do a TV series that Sony has, based on the Heavy metal comic book / Metal hurlant in French. It’s really cool, kind of like Blade runner but with even more bad guys. I don’t know why I said yes, I’ve never done a non-American TV show, but this is very cool.

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Sunday talks

Just as he did at the previous day’s talks, Joe opened with: ‘I don’t really like to be up here and pontificate… so let’s hear your questions’

Q: Do you keep in contact with the rest of cast?

I try not to! No, it’s not like that, we are really close, all of us, Jason lives very close to me, he just texted me yesterday if I wanted to go surfing. I see him often, and now that David is in Santa Monica I see him also fairly often, I saw Rachel at the Conan premiere, as you know Jason went from Ronan to Conan. I said that at his premiere: ‘look, it’s Ronan with a C‘. And I talk to McGillion also, he will be in Marseille with me, unfortunately… I told him to stay home…

The next fan had a problem with the microphone, so Joe couldn’t hear his question, but took a wild guess “Oh you wanted to know why am I such an amazing actor?” When his microphone got online, we had the surprise to learn his question was actually linked to SG Universe and SGA possible crossover episodes.

I also heard that Elvis Presley and Michael Jackson were hanging out together. No, these were just rumors. The producers knew they weren’t going to do that, but they never came clean with the fans, they didn’t want to disappoint them. An SG1 and SGA movie could possibly happen, with the same actors but perhaps with different producers and writers. I don’t know if Universe would be part of it, although they would need to tie in all the shows, which would be weird, as Universe is too serious compared to the others.

Q. Do you have other stories with the SG1 actors similar to that with Christopher Judge?

Oh, you’re asking about that extremely sordid story with Christopher Judge? He is a very hard man to go toe to toe with. I tried, much to my chagrin.  We were never serious on the show, I don’t know if this came through (!) ‘We’re all gonna die!’ Jason and I would team up pulling pranks around, we were an unstoppable duo of pranksters and Hewlett was our favorite target, he was so easy to bother. I remember, for instance, when Hewlett was having a baby… (pause, as he realizes how weird that sounded) Yes, he actually thought he was having the baby. He was wondering about these Lamaze classes… I have three kids, I never went to any of these classes, or to the driving education classes, for that matter… And so we found this really horrible porno magazine. Don’t ask me how Jason got it! We thought we should plaster his trailer with it, as a ‘how to’. And we did. And he walked in. And he was… genuinely traumatized.

Then Jason took the photos down and stuck them in my laptop, and the next day at 6 am, we were going through security at the Vancouver airport, Jason, Chris Judge and myself. So here’s Jason, with dreadlocks, and tinfoiled food looking like hash, and they let him go through. And then there’s Chris, this big menacing guy, and then I came through. Apparently I fit a profile… and there’s this lady who’s messing with me. So she makes me open the laptop and she sees these… and I was like… (mimicking: these are not mine, I don’t know anything about THIS, I’m innocent) …guys…Chris…Jason… (in high pitch voice, searching desperate over his shoulder for some help). She looked at me and she was disgusted and told me… just go!… I felt dirty. They let me through, but I felt really dirty.

Look, I don’t want to take everybody’s time with just pranks (audience protesting). No? I’ll answer a few more questions and maybe more pranks later.

Q. What did you keep from the show?

(whispering) A little bit of my dignity. I remember we got this award I was actually proud of, the People’s Choice Award, it’s this glass sculpture type of thing and they gave it to the cast of Atlantis. For some reason the producer thought it was his and he kept it. But I don’t think he won it, it was us who won it, so, on the last day of shooting, I went up to his office. And by this moment he was a bit nervous about me. I knew I was going to be fired the next day, so I thought I had nothing to loose … So I went up there and said: ‘See that award on the shelf? I want it’. I grabbed it. I still have it.

On a TV show, everybody thinks they are the people responsible for its success, and everybody is partially right. In their case, after 12 years on the show, they thought their ministering as producers was the sole reason for the success and they were dismissive of the actors’ contribution. I kind of disagree with that, the actors are an important part of the show. I felt like Stargate relied on pretty strong characters, like Richard Dean Anderson’s. He’s unique, right? He’s not easily replaceable, and if you did, you’d have a different show. So I’d say the actors are important so I took the damn trophy! (audience cheers)

Q. How did you get along with SG1 actors?

They were great. At first, Rick and Michael were in our pilot, so they came to our show before we went to theirs. While Rick and I were in the helicopter together, flying over the glacier, I thought it was so cool, I was flying with MacGyver, so I handed him a paper clip and a rubber band ‘in case we’re going down, you should have these’. I thought I was too funny, but he looked at me ‘think you’re the first guy who said that?’ I felt so small… Then when we start shooting, as our show had more resources than theirs, we used to go next door, where they were shooting, and I would be like ‘what are you doing, hey it’s so hot in here, oh it’s because you don’t have A/C, see you guys later!’ and just walk out… I used to do that all the time, I think they hated me. I’m still seeing Michael and Amanda, I run into Rick every now and then, he lives in Malibu, he’s very involved in parenting.

Q. What’s your favorite period in history?

So that’s a serious question! Do you really want to talk about history? I did a thesis on modern European and American intellectual history between WWI and WWII. I just love history, I always did. If you learn history you get more perspective, so you’re less mystified by what is happening now. For me, it gives more sense. My oldest son likes also history and our conversations are priceless.

Q: Have you ever been in an archaeology dig?

No, I haven’t. But I buried like a six pack somewhere at my place and I couldn’t find it…

No I haven’t been in an archaeology dig and I would probably like it for about 5 minutes… with the toothbrush… I would loose patience. It’s not active enough for me. I’m hyper active, I drive people nuts on vacation. I’m told: can’t you just sit down there? Yes, I can sit there, or there, or there…

Q: What’s coming up next for you?

I just wrapped a film 5 days ago, with Jean Claude Van Damme, featuring some hard core action. I get to play a really cool character, the ex-mixed martial art world champion and I have this really cool tattoo that goes over my arm to my neck. It was a lot of fun. It was just wrapped up, I don’t know when it’s going to come out. I did an appearance also on Fringe, so short I don’t remember even doing it, it was like a couple of days in Vancouver. Then I’m going to Brussels to shoot this very interesting project that Sony has, the French call it Metal Hurlant, it’s very Blade Runner-ish, which is cool. And then there’s Thanksgiving, and then Christmas… Beyond that I don’t know what’s going on, but something always comes up. I’ve been very busy, fortunately, ‘cos I need to feed my kids, if they were eating just one meal a day I could save so much money…

Q. What existing TV show you’d like to do?

I’m guilty for not watching TV. If I could be on a show that I’m aware of it would be something like Boardwalk Empire; I watch Mad Men, I feel it’s cool, it’s almost that it’s too cool to be good for it. It’s good, but I think it’s more smug than good, and that’s okay.

What I really want to do is movies, because it’s more fun, and I’d like to do the Uncharted movie, I like the Drake character, I’m trying to figure it out how to do this, so just make that happen for me, will you?

Q. If Atlantis had rightfully had its fully deserved 20-30 seasons, what kind of resolution you would have seen for the characters and the city?

I probably had a cane to smack McKay around. The show did something funny by taking a lot of story lines from SG1 and just tweaking bits of them. I think the writers ran out of ideas, which is ridiculous, as there are countless ideas. Running out of ideas on a SF show is almost preposterous, unless you lock yourself into a certain mythology. That’s why the episode Vegas was great and I though it would had been our best opportunity to open up new chapter stories. For instance Fringe does that, you have there two universes and two types of characters. I thought that was a great idea, and then we’ve got cancelled, damn! Who knows, maybe we’ll come back to that…

Q. Did you stalk / cyberstalk anyone?

Editor’s note: couldn’t get this question right and it was weird also for Joe, he couldn’t understand it exactly, so not sure if this coverage is accurate

I’m so lazy I could never do that, even if was obsessed with someone. So the answer would be no. Have you? No, don’t tell me!

Q. Do you have any tattoos?

No, I don’t, it wouldn’t help me in any way. A tattoo is a bit of a hindrance for an actor. But it was a lot of fun having such a menacing one, plus the scars here. When I came back from work, people wouldn’t make eye contact, they were very nervous when I was around. One night, some Italian dignitary was staying in the hotel, and I came in with my bags, bloody knuckles, scars, tattoo and while walking into the elevator there were these three guys in suits that stopped me (Italian accent): ‘Excuse me, sir, where are you going?’ ‘To my room.’ So we had to go to the registration, they weren’t sure that I was a ‘guest’.

‘It was fun having a menacing tattoo, plus the scars here’ (posted with permission by @JadeMcKay42)


Q. What was your favorite story line in Atlantis?

Vegas was one of my favorites. It was also very expensive to shoot. Also Outcast… any episode that would be outside, with guns, was fun to me. A harder part was to shoot inside, with the green screen, and the technobabble, when I have to listen to McKay, or at least I must pretend I’m listening… It takes long hours to shoot a show, 12-14 hours a day, every single day, and then I had to fly back to LA on Fridays night or Saturdays morning, to be with my wife and kids, and fly back on Sunday, and that’s pretty exhausting. So I’d say the hardest part of the show was maintaining energy levels. So frankly, if we are talking 30 seasons, I’m not sure I would have make it. Rick did a clever thing towards the last seasons of SG1, he reduced to only 3 days per week, 3 weeks per month, for about 8 months, adding to no more than 72 days per year. Now, that’s fine! When shooting recently the movie, we had the luxury of shooting just 2-3 pages at most a day, while on a TV show you shoot 12 pages a day. But I’m still alive. Thanks everyone!

Oct 132011

During the recent London convention Entertainment Media Show (EMS, pour les connoisseurs), FlanInfo’s representative, Carmen Domin had the privilege to meet Joe Flanigan and ask him a few questions (full interview here). Thereby we can offer you some of her convention notes.

On the first day, Joe put up a very early appearance (unlike many other guests), for the delight of the early birds, making the conversation so much easier as the place was less crowded than it would become after 11 o’clock, time of the actual opening.

Joe’s line for signing on Saturday morning

It’s hard to believe, but this is a really full 9-to-6 day of work for the guests at the con. During all this time Joe was extremely friendly, constantly smiling and engaging with everybody, although I’ve managed to make him confess under the breath these events are more taxing than a 12 hours day on set, but he’s so grateful to the fans showing up to meet him. It definitely pays seeing as he genuinely opens up when each fan approaches him. Compliant with every single request for pictures, posing with each of the fans if asked to and even helpful with the technical stuff when the fans themselves couldn’t cope with the camera or something… There was a fan trying to take both their picture with an iPad, but she couldn’t do it properly, so Joe promptly took charge and took the picture, as they were over each side of the table, leaning toward each other: “I have longer arms, it’s easier that way“.

During the Saturday morning signing session, I’ve managed to slip him this picture taken by MajorBerry at Stockholm last year while he had been checking his twitter timeline, and simply indicated him what to write. Which he kindly obliged (“oh God… twitter, yes… so… Dear twitter fans…”), sporting a slightly boyish guilty look as if knowing he’d been behind with his homework and there was no point in arguing. He almost sighed while signing, but I cannot be sure. We haven’t promised we won’t blackmail him with his signature, so here’s the photo in question!

Joe Flanigan to Twitter fans (MajorBerry's picture)

"Dear twitter Fans, I promise to be back... and better... and I mean it. Cheers" (posted with permission of MajorBerry)

Hope his tweet from London (“Survived Bucharest but I’ve changed a little“) proves he’s at least considering to honor this pledge :)

It seems there’s almost a tradition for Joe to be late for his scheduled moments at the cons, he didn’t break it this time either. Hence he missed his photo-op by 10-15 minutes or so (and apparently he repeated this on Sunday, as well), looking embarrassed when he showed up and ruefully apologizing for being caught in traffic (“when I’ve left it was a 10 minutes ride, but coming back took more than twice and I was so frustrated being stuck in the cab and watching the hour…”). So, the program being so tight, his Saturday photo-op had to be postponed to accommodate the next guest, no harm done. While queuing for it, I have actually got to see Joe trying several faces before settling for the menacing one in vida_boheme‘s post on twitter.

Point blank Nemo (posted with permission of vida_boheme)

Point blank Nemo (posted with permission of vida_boheme)

He was really miffed about the whole thing with the comments about the Romanian actresses’ photos; “C’mon, I’m a married man, how could they do that?” They were absolutely innocent pictures, girls asking him to pose together. Which, by the way, he did so graciously during the con, countless times: each of the fans who asked him to pose with them over that uncomfortable table, he would promptly get up and comply. Then would wait for the fan to check the picture quality and have anther one, if requested. Unbelievably patient and obliging.

A lot of fans were asking about Sarah Geary and Joe got visibly sad. “She’s not better, but she would be definitely much worse without all your help, I’m so grateful for that. She’s probably just a bit more comfortable, and so is her family.

Before the talks (scheduled for late in the afternoon), we had some time for the interview and I had the chance to see the swollen elbow of his right tattoo-less arm. The lump looks quite painful (“but it was worse”, said Joe pointing to a larger area on his forearm, from the elbow to the wrist). The tattoo hadn’t been too difficult to keep during the shooting, it just needed some ‘maintenance’ from time to time, but that meant he wore it all the time while in Bucharest, which prompted the funny stories about scaring people around…

During the signing one very young fan came and told him he liked SG1. “Okaaay, but you like Atlantis b e t t e r, right?

Then the talks were on. It’s quite a treat to watch him shift from the “regular Joe” mode (yes, pun intended) to the scene-mode; he instantly becomes a totally different person. His panel was way too short (but then again they are always like that) and the light in the stage area was awfully bad, preventing almost any decent photo (although I’ll admit that’s just a lame excuse for my exceptionally bad photos).

Saturday talks

The second day at con was a bit more rushed, as well as Joe’s schedule, who had several interviews lined up. One of them, including video, is available here.

Sunday talks

Joe was clearly in a pre-holiday mood, very eager to get home and unwind after what seems to have been an intense month away. Considering the fact he is gearing up for the next projects, the Marseille HalfWay convention at the end of October, and then, back-to-back, the upcoming shooting of Metal Hurlant in Brussels, we wish him a relaxed vacation with our huge thanks for stopping by in London!


Oct 082011

At the Entertainment Media Show in London, FlanInfo was lucky enough to have a representative who sat with Joe Flanigan through several questions that finally made up for an exclusive interview. The discussion covered his most recent project, the next one, how was it working with Jean Claude Van Damme, how does the industry go and how he sees his profession. All in all we’ve got some interesting insights about what makes the actor Joe Flanigan tick.

Part 1: (Jump to Part 2)

FlanInfo: When have you finished shooting 6 Bullets?

JF: We finished 5 days ago, in Bucharest, and I’ll be going back to Los Angeles on Monday. We’ll be still doing some ADR, looping as we call it, we’ll be probably doing a lot of that, actually, as there were some challenges out here.

FlanInfo: When will the movie be on the market?

JF: Early 2012, more likely in the spring. But I don’t know, we’ve just finished, you never know these things. They are trying for a theatrical release, it’s the same group of people working with Van Damme, but you never quite know how it will turn out until you’re almost there.

FlanInfo: Did you learn any new moves from your stunt trainer?

JF: I’ve learnt a lot! A lot!

FlanInfo: Could you take care of yourself in a dark alley?

JF: Absolutely, but I’d still prefer a gun.

FlanInfo: How’s the shoulder?

JF: It’s getting better, but definitely it’s a long road to recovery. You see this? (pointing to his right elbow, swollen and looking quite painful) I hit it during a stunt, still hasn’t gone down, and it was bigger (pointing towards the length of the forearm).

FlanInfo: Was 6 Bullets a good project?

JF: I would say it was a really great experience. Basically, the way I do these things now, it’s based on the role. I look at the role. Do I like the role? Is that a role that I want to play? And then the second question would be who else is in it, and who else is supporting the movie? I used to not look to things that way, I used to go for the most interesting project as a whole, but I don’t think that’s the right approach, as an actor.

This character was really interesting, as he’s the ex-world champion mixed martial artist who’s trying to stage a come-back and he brings his wife and daughter to Moldova to talk with this promoter and stage a come-back fight. And his daughter gets kidnapped and there’s a prostitution ring. Then I get Van Damme to help me get her back and I team up with him in the end and we get to kill a lot of people. Act macho! It was fun.

FlanInfo: What was it different working in Romania as opposed to US or Ireland? Working habits, maybe longer hours on set?

JF: No, the hours weren’t longer at all, and Romania turned out being much better than I thought. I was really geared up for something rustic and undeveloped in terms of filmmaking and it turned out to be reasonably well sophisticated and we were able to get all sorts of things done. For one day of shooting in the US we could shoot for 6 days in Romania, just to give you an idea about the cost.

FlanInfo: They shoot a lot nowadays there, Nicholas Cage, Gerard Depardieu…

JF: They’re doing a really big project right now, called ‘The Hatfields and McCoys’ that Kevin Costner’s doing for the History channel, some of the actors were there with me in the hotel, I’ve got to know some of those guys, it was very cool. They’ll be there until Christmas.

FlanInfo: Did you go to the Enescu classic music festival that was on just across your hotel?

JF: I didn’t have to, because the festival came to me. I had this incredibly nice hotel room on the fifth floor that had its own patio and the doors opened up right to the plaza. They had every night live music, it was incredible, for about three weeks. And I met these lovely ladies who worked at the festival, they were at the hotel a lot with the musicians, and they’ve got me tickets to anything I wanted, the only problem was I couldn’t take advantage of them, I didn’t have the time. But it didn’t make a difference; I came home, forgot all about the reasons I was there, stayed on the patio maybe with a cigar and listen to Mozart, it was pretty cool. So, to be honest with you, the experience turned out to be really enjoyable, I had fun. The only thing that was tough was being away from my wife and kids for that long. But it was a good group of people, it was a good role and hopefully the film turns out well.

FlanInfo: Do you have a lot of screentime?

JF: It’s definitely the biggest part outside of Van Damme’s and I think it’s an even more interesting role than his. I’d rather play the role I play than his role. I have a big spectrum of things happening to me. The lady who plays my wife did a really good job, she’s an English actress.

We stop again as Joe signs some more and chats with a young fan and his parents (young fan as in 7-8 years old young!). Joe takes his time talking to him and finds out he couldn’t remember his birthday “I sometimes forget when my birthday is, but you know what, if you don’t know when your birthday is, you don’t know when to expect for your presents. You’d better write it down!”

JF: That’s another thing: how many shows have 6 years olds and 86 years olds fans? Not that many. Shows usually cater to young, or old, or something like a niche, teenage girls or middle age women or whatever. Having a show that has an audience covering such a broad part of the spectrum is interesting.

Very brief audio file of the following two questions: JCVD_MH

FlanInfo: How was it working with Van Damme?

JF: I really enjoyed working with Jean Claude. I find him to be personable, very charming, nothing but a gentleman. He’s a great martial artist. I really had a good time. And it’s kind of cool, as an actor, if you can say that you’ve worked with certain icons, you know?

FlanInfo: The next project?

JF: I’m going to go to Marseille for that signing at the end of October and then I’m supposed to go straight to Brussels to shoot… Sony is producing a French TV show based on the Heavy Metal comic book, and I believe the French call it Metal Hurlant. I’ll shoot for 7 days roughly, in Brussels. That’s the plan right now, although there are some details I didn’t yet sort out. That takes us to mid November. In American production, there’s not much happening between Thanksgiving and Christmas.


Part 2: (Jump to Part 1)

FlanInfo: How badly do you want to direct? Would you give up acting for the chance of directing?

JF: The beauty is you don’t have to give up one for another. But I absolutely want to direct, and I think it’s a smart direction to go for any actor, because sometimes the most difficult thing for an actor is to take work he doesn’t want to. The amount of experience that you gain after tens of thousands of hours on the set is directly applicable to something like directing. Directing is also very creative. I think there are few directors that handle actors well, that understand how actors think, how they operate. The biggest problems on most sets come from communication issues. People have a hard time explaining what it is they’re looking for.

FlanInfo: Then a better deal would be to direct and produce?

JF: Not necessarily, it depends. Executive producing, that’s essentially just bringing money, and then there’s producing, that could be very exhausting, with all the organizational aspects that don’t totally interest me, although I understand them.

FlanInfo: But producers take decisions, right? They can cut into the creative line of a show, don’t they?

JF: There are overlapping boundaries. If you direct and you can get a producer credit as well, it’s great. A lot of times people do. In television producers tend to have a tremendous amount of power, not so much in films. In films the directors have the power. In fact, in television, unfortunately directors’ importance has been sometimes reduced. They often don’t really want to “direct” the actors too much because the actors have a better sense of their characters, having lived with them for years, so the guest directors tend to be a little timid in directing an actor. As a result, shows get stuck. I always like it when a director shows up and tries to stir the bottle a little, although actors can get prickly when they are challenged to perform in a certain way. And yet sometimes that’s the best way to force the character to stay dynamic.

As you act, the writers would write for you. And vice versa: as they write, you can act for them. Sometimes they see you as something separate of their creation, until they are seeing your feedback and your interpretation of their words. After that they can start writing more effectively for your role. Once you open up new elements of your personality, the writers are given a new set of possibilities. If writers feel stuck with your character, your character kind of dies.

Flaninfo: What about making the step to movies, from TV?

JF: What happens with movies is you need to leave your home for a long period of time. Shooting a movie would generally take up to three months. The other thing is, and I don’t say this smugly at all, I’m not a character actor, I’m a leading man. Leading men, in movies, are Brad Pitt, Matt Damon and it’s almost impossible for me to compete with that type of box office power. I haven’t been given the chance to sell movie tickets like they’ve got. It’s a Catch 22: they want new leading men, but they don’t want to give new leading men a chance because of the risks involved with giving them a chance.

There are so few movies they make these days, that movie stars start making television shows, where they crowd the field quite a bit. Network executives get very seduced ‘hey, let’s make that TV show with Ben Affleck, that’s so cool, maybe he’ll invite us to his house’. So guys like us, who have been traditionally recruited for leading parts in TV shows find it competitive to keep their territory, it’s increasingly difficult. Also movies don’t pay that much. I know, it seems strange, that’s a surprise for a lot of people; unless you’re the star of the movie, it’s a precipitous decline from the leading character to the next actors. So you’re making a lot more money as a regular on a TV show than you’ll ever make on a movie, unless you are a movie star. That’s another thing that out-of-work movie stars have discovered. Television tends to pay the bills better, it’s just it’s less glamorous than movies.

There’s another added element, because there are so many fewer movies being made, a lot of the talents, including writers, are going to TV, making damned good TV shows! I would argue that dollar per dollar TV is producing better entertainment than the movies. If you’re watching shows like Boardwalk Empire or Deadwood a few years ago… those are really, really good TV shows.

FlanInfo: How do you expect your fans to support you to get the perfect next project?

JF: I don’t know, it’s funny, I never think of it that way. I don’t expect anything from my fans other than to enjoy my work. Sure, there are these campaigns… I’d still like to play that Uncharted role.

FlanInfo: So how can we do that?

JF: That project has been up and down, it’s hard to know what’s its status, and you want your campaign at the right time. I truly haven’t seen what people have been doing [campaign-wise], and it’s not from lack of gratitude, but it’s just practically impossible to follow… between work and being married with three kids and five dogs, it’s an impossibility.

I’m not a big fan of spending time on publicity. My biggest fear is to be seen as those guys who are famous for nothing. Without a show actively on the air, there’s only so much presence I want… You won’t find me at Cannes festival or Sundance festival unless I have a movie there, I won’t show up, I’m not a hanger-on. The best thing that I can do to get back to my fans is to create more work, and that’s what I’m trying to do.

FlanInfo: Thank you!

Jun 292011

According to the official information posted by convention websites, Joe Flanigan is due to appear at the following events in second half of year 2011:

Creation Con (Chicago)

During the Creation SG1-SGA Convention in Chicago, 19-21 Aug 2011. Joe is due to appear on Sunday, together with David Hewlett (yes, we expect they’ll be a riot on stage, once again). Two other guests from the show are going to be in Chicago: Chris Judge and Paul McGillion.

Creation Convention official website

Dragon Con (Atlanta)

In Atlanta, Georgia, at the Dragon Con, 2-5 Sept 2011. The lucky congoers will be able to meet also Amanda Tapping, David Nykl, Christopher Heyerdahl, Beau Bridges and Nicole de Boer.

Dragon Con official website

LATER UPDATE: Unfortunately for the fans planning to meet Joe at Dragon Con, he had to cancel due to work, as his new project, 6 Bullets, movie with Jean Claude Van Damme, starts shooting late August in Romania.

Halfway Convention (Marseille, France)

European fans can hope to meet him in Marseille, France, at the Halfway Convention, 29-30 October 2011. Torri Higginson, Ryan Robbins and Dan Pyne (you know, the Wraith, the scary, big, bad Sateda Wraith) are also announced.

Halfway Convention official website


Should any of you gracious congoers wish to share with the rest of us your experiences on site, either by reports or pictures, we’d be happy to publish them here for the enjoyment of all other fans. Just let us know.


UPDATE 7 Oct 2011

EMS Collectormania (London)

Early September, during the first days of shooting 6 Bullets (later to become The Butcher) in Romania, Joe was announced as guest at  The Entertainment Media Show, 1-2 October 2011. FlanInfo attended the event and interviewed Joe (full interview in a later post).

The Entertainment Media Show with Collectormania official website